Re: Use of SAP in a PIM SSM Network

[Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>]

>  >>Why does it have to be standardised in the IETF ? Why not some other place ?
>  >>Why are things like CORBA not standardised in the IETF ? Don't those
>  >>distributed applications relying on it run over the Internet also ?
> 
> oh boy, so we dont need to be able to buy multi-vendor solutions? dont
> be silly.

No, multi-vendor solutions are nice (well, if they work, as a customer
i've mostly encountered cases where  they don't, but let's not use practical
experience as a distraction for ideals one would like to follow).

I was only suggesting that the IETF is not the only place to standardise
multi-vendor solutions.

>  >>We won't take the holy grail away, Lancelot ;-)
> 
> thanks....but it aint that hard if we buy juniper:-)

Well, if ip multicast were ever to vanish completely due to ssm (which
i neither expect nor hope), then i'd rather guess that Cisco will still
have the last bastions of customers ("he who starts earlier needs to be
backward compatible much longer" - see also reference [Microsoft]).

> hey, dont get me wrongh - i LOVE ssm - its cool, its good, it scales,
> it makes really good coffee etc - dont let me put you off - just
> trying to say: don't throw out the work on PIM bidir just yet:-)

Oh, on the contrary. As far as architecture is concerned, SSM is so simple,
so well working, so uncontroversial,  so... boring ? Evolving on Bidir-PIM
is much more challenging.  Especially if you think about all the politics
on BGMP. Now just give us lots of customer incentive to evolve there...

Cheers
	Toerless

P.S.: There are no Corba applications with more than 3 hosts involved ? ;-))