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Re: [ssm] msnip status


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Toerless,
      As has already been said, the amount of community involvement in
the MSNIP work has been less than stellar.  I know of several scenarios
where resource problems are encountered due to lack of feedback to
multicast sources.  Multicast sources attached via low-speed or
wireless links is an example.

      I could get on my soapbox and rant about how the IETF work
requires active participation from many people in order to make it
successful.  And in this case, as well as others, the lack of active
participation has been the downfall.

Regards,
Brian

On Oct 19, 2005, at 19:12, Toerless Eckert wrote:

> Brian: What exactly where the points that stopped the last MSNIP draft
> from moving forward ? I unfortunately don't remember the details,
> and in general i'm of course annoyed that there's no good means in the
> IETF to keep that last work status summary alive in case it needs to
> get picked up again.
>
> I think MSNIP tried to solve a key functionality for the SSM 
> architecture,
> and while it may be possible to ad-hoc hack something similar up once
> somebody requires it, i still think that it would be good to have an
> IETF recommendation for this functionality.
>
> If we were to release an RFC, we could make it informational. I don't
> think that MSNIP itself needs to be focussed on what Pekka is claiming
> "universal adoption". Because it only applies to sources, it will 
> always
> tender only to comparably much fewer places than for example IGMP.
>
> Cheers
> 	Toerless
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 12:40:30PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote:
>> Hi Stig,
>>      The consensus is that msnip is not the solution people want.
>> Additionally, there has been no one volunteering to work on the
>> problem in general.
>>
>>      Combining MSNIP with MRD doesn't make a lot of sense
>> and any such plans were abandoned.
>>
>>      If you have people interested in the problem, have them bring
>> forth ideas.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Brian
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2005, at 8:48, Stig Venaas wrote:
>>
>>> Now that magma is being shut down, what is the future of
>>> draft-ietf-magma-msnip? I know several people that are
>>> interested in seeing this work continue. Are there any
>>> plans for that, or has it more or less been decided that
>>> this is not the way to go? I know there were discussions
>>> on combining it with MRD, but don't think that went
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>>> Stig
>>>
>>>
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> -- 
> Thanks
>    Toerless Eckert
>

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